The ATF split off from the Treasury Department.
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The claim is that the ATF split off from the Treasury Department. Sources show the Homeland Security Act (signed Nov 2002) split ATF: its firearms, explosives, and law-enforcement functions moved to the Department of Justice in January 2003, while alcohol and tobacco tax functions stayed in Treasury under the new TTB.
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… I know that Rob Cicada i believe that's how I've been saying Cicada for a while. I feel bad, Rob. Nothing personal. Sorry, Rob. Scott is the director of the ATF, and I i talked with him recently, and we we had a good conversation. What I what I can say is that he's probably the most pro-gun director we've ever had in charge of that organization since it split off from the Treasury Department. He's awesome guy. He's just trying to make sure they do the guidance right, so gun owners don't get over so that, like, gun owners, FFLs, whatnot, have CYA, so that they're covered if, for example, we get a fucking Gavin Newsom or AOC president in two years, …
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Contradicts. The claim's wording implies the whole ATF left Treasury, but sources show only the law-enforcement/firearms portion moved, with the tax and regulatory functions staying in Treasury under TTB.[1][2][5]
Supports. Primary ATF and government records state that the Homeland Security Act divided the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, transferring ATF's firearms and explosives functions from Treasury to the Department of Justice in January 2003.[2][3][4]
Supports. TTB's official history confirms the split created ATF in DOJ and the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau, which remained in Treasury.[1]
Context. The post's own passage says 'since it split off from the Treasury Department,' which the extraction reproduces; the claim faithfully matches the passage.
Sources
5 sources: 4 primary, 1 not rated
- 1History | TTB: Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureauttb.gov · primary source · cited for: contradicts, supports
- 2Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives - Agencyusgovernmentmanual.gov · primary source · cited for: contradicts, supports
- 3EXPLOSIVESatf.gov · primary source · cited for: supports
- 4The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)congress.gov · primary source · cited for: supports
- 5Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)britannica.com · not rated · cited for: contradicts
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