The United States national debt is 40 trillion dollars.

Said by Rep. Chip Roy Press Office, Jul 15, 2026Checked Aug 20, 2026Updated Nov 2, 2026

Polygraph verdictTrue

Sources: 4 support3 context
Said: 2 times·
Confidence: 90%

PivotSep 4, 2026

As of 2026-09-04, multiple sources show the total US national debt had passed $40 trillion (crossing the threshold in August 2026), with Treasury-based figures of about $40.17 trillion at fiscal year-end; the claim's figure matches the record.

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What was said

… change his policy directions and change his mind, even though he's a stubborn guy and loves to double down, and what we see now is that the bond market is basically a fount of wisdom, and right now it's sort of flashing bright yellow, nearly red. You know, 40 trillion dollars of debt, 6% budget deficits, war in Iran, Strait of Hormuz closed, rising gasoline prices and oil prices, inflation generally being at three plus percent, is not sustainable, not good for the economy, and we need to start taking remedial action, and quickly. …

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What we found

Supports. Reuters (Oct 30, 2026) and CNN (Aug 23, 2026) report the total national debt topped $40 trillion, with CNN saying it surpassed $40 trillion for the first time in August.[1][2]

Supports. The Independent cites total public debt outstanding of $40,171,825,101,340.31 at the end of September 2026, and The Conference Board puts it at $40.2 trillion as of August 31, 2026.[3][4]

Context. Debt held by the public was roughly $32 trillion, a narrower measure that excludes intragovernmental obligations such as Social Security trust fund holdings; the claim uses the total figure, which the sources support.[5][6][7]

Context. The debt crossed $40 trillion in August 2026, so it was above that level on the 2026-09-04 posting date; later sources show it continued to rise to about $40.5 trillion by late October.[5]